What the world needs from the church is indomitable joy in Jesus in the very midst of suffering and sorrow.

This was not only the theme of John Piper’s last sermon as senior pastor (“Sorrowful Yet Always Rejoicing”), but also has been the profound life-experience of Passion worship-leader Christy Nockels.

Christy and her husband Nathan walked through the pain of back-to-back miscarriages. It was in this suffering and sorrow that they learned that Jesus is the greatest and deepest joy, and that God entrusts his children with suffering that they might learn this sweet lesson and be able to share it with others.

Here’s what Christy had to say when asked what she’s learned in suffering: